{"id":4814,"date":"2024-05-27T03:14:59","date_gmt":"2024-05-27T10:14:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/troubadourworks.com\/tiandi\/meotw\/?p=4814"},"modified":"2024-06-02T02:15:49","modified_gmt":"2024-06-02T09:15:49","slug":"jiti-zhuyi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/troubadourworks.com\/tiandi\/meotw\/2024\/05\/27\/jiti-zhuyi\/","title":{"rendered":"j\u00edt\u01d0 zh\u01d4y\u00ec"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3>\n\t\t\t<span onclick=\"plus(this)\">j\u00edt\u01d0 zh\u01d4y\u00ec<\/span><span class=\"plusinfo a\" onclick=\"minus(this)\">\n\t\t\t((j\u00ed\u00b7t\u01d0\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">gathered; collected \u00b7 {body [\u2192 [style; form]]} \u2192 [collective]<\/span>\n\t\t\t\u96c6\u4f53\n\t\t\t<span class=\"trad\">\u96c6\u9ad4<\/span>)\n\t\t\t(zh\u01d4\u00b7y\u00ec\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">master \u00b7 meaning \u2192 [-ism]<\/span>\n\t\t\t\u4e3b\u4e49\n\t\t\t<span class=\"trad\">\u4e3b\u7fa9<\/span>)\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">\u2192<\/span> <span class=\"mt\">[collectivism; community spirit]<\/span>)<\/span>\n\n\t\t\t<span style=\"color: hsl(100, 85%, 40%);\"> \u2190 Tap\/click to show\/hide the \u201cflashcard\u201d<\/span>\n<\/h3>\n\n<p>Generally speaking, Western societies are considered to be relatively individualistic, while Eastern societies, like Chinese ones, are considered to be relatively collectivistic, emphasizing the collective, or group, over the individual. This week\u2019s MEotW, <span onclick=\"plus(this)\"><i>\u201cj\u00edt\u01d0 zh\u01d4y\u00ec<\/i><\/span><span class=\"plusinfo\" onclick=\"minus(this)\">\n\t\t\t((j\u00ed\u00b7t\u01d0\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">gathered; collected \u00b7 {body [\u2192 [style; form]]} \u2192 [collective]<\/span>\n\t\t\t\u96c6\u4f53\n\t\t\t<span class=\"trad\">\u96c6\u9ad4<\/span>)\n\t\t\t(zh\u01d4\u00b7y\u00ec\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">master \u00b7 meaning \u2192 [-ism]<\/span>\n\t\t\t\u4e3b\u4e49\n\t\t\t<span class=\"trad\">\u4e3b\u7fa9<\/span>)\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">\u2192<\/span> <span class=\"mt\">[collectivism; community spirit]<\/span>)<\/span><i>\u201d,<\/i> seems to be the main Mandarin expression referring to such collectivism. (The <a href=\"https:\/\/troubadourworks.com\/tiandi\/meotw\/2023\/11\/26\/kongbu-huodong\/\" title=\"k\u01d2ngb\u00f9 hu\u00f3d\u00f2ng - Mandarin Expression of the Week\">MEotW post<\/a> on <span onclick=\"plus(this)\"><i>\u201ck\u01d2ngb\u00f9 hu\u00f3d\u00f2ng<\/i><\/span><span class=\"plusinfo\" onclick=\"minus(this)\">\n\t\t\t((k\u01d2ng\u00b7b\u00f9\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">fearing \u00b7 terror \u2192 [terrorist]<\/span>\n\t\t\t\u6050\u6016)\n\t\t\t(hu\u00f3\u00b7d\u00f2ng\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">living \u00b7 moving \u2192 [activities]<\/span>\n\t\t\t\u6d3b\u52a8\n\t\t\t<span class=\"trad\">\u6d3b\u52d5<\/span>)\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">\u2192<\/span> <span class=\"mt\">[terrorism; terrorist activities]<\/span>)<\/span><i>\u201d<\/i> contains a brief discussion about some other Mandarin -isms.)<\/p>\n<h4>Differences and Possible Causal Factors<\/h4>\n<p>While researching this post, I came across a <a href=\"https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/full\/10.1177\/1834490921991436\" title=\"An Integrated Ecological Approach to Mapping Variations in Collectivism Within China: Introducing the Triple-Line Framework - Xiaopeng Ren, Xiaohui Cang, Andrew G. Ryder, 2021\">scientific paper<\/a> that has some interesting information about individualism and collectivism, including some information about measurable regional variations in collectivism that have been found across the Chinese mainland. Here is a quotation from it, regarding individualism and collectivism in general:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThe distinction between individualism and collectivism captures important differences in how the relationship between self and others is constructed, as well as whether the individual or the group is understood as the basic unit of analysis (Cross et al., 2011; Hofstede, 2001; Markus &#038; Kitayama, 1991, 2010; Oyserman et al., 2002; Triandis, 1995). People living in individualistic cultural contexts (e.g., the United States and the United Kingdom) tend to pay more attention to the achievement of their own goals and their own uniqueness. They have clear boundaries with others and pursue well-being or life satisfaction by sharing feelings and achieving personal success. In contrast, people living in collectivistic cultural contexts (e.g., China, Japan, and Korea) tend to be more concerned about maintaining harmonious relations with in-group members, and the boundaries between themselves and these others are much less firm. This distinction is reflected in cognition, perception, memory, cultural products, and even brain function (Morling, 2016; Nisbett &#038; Masuda, 2003; Oyserman et al., 2002; Zhu et al., 2007). Many explanations for these differences have been proposed, including cultural heritage (Ma et al., 2016), modernity (Inglehart &#038; Baker, 2000), climato-economic theory (Van de Vliert et al., 2013), the subsistence system (Uskul et al., 2008), the historical risk of infectious disease (Fincher et al., 2008), and geographic and relational mobility (Oishi, 2010).\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Later in the paper, the authors divide China into four regions, and present a table listing some factors that may have contributed to the varying degrees of collectivism in those regions.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/troubadourworks.com\/tiandi\/meotw\/img\/2024\/China-Regions_of_Differing_Collectivism.jpeg\" alt=\"Triple-Line Framework of variations within China.\" loading=\"lazy\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Table 1<\/strong>. Ecological Factor Differences Among the Four Regions.<\/p>\n<table style=\"font-size: 85%\">\n<thead>\n<tr style=\"text-align: center\">\n<td style=\"width: 23%\"> <\/td>\n<th style=\"width: 15%\">Region I<\/th>\n<th style=\"width: 22%\">Region II<\/th>\n<th style=\"width: 20%\">Region III<\/th>\n<th style=\"width: 20%\">Region IV<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody style=\"vertical-align: top\">\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Collectivism<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Lowest<\/td>\n<td>Lower<\/td>\n<td>Higher<\/td>\n<td>Highest<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Climate<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Harsh<\/td>\n<td>Harsh<\/td>\n<td>Comfortable<\/td>\n<td>Comfortable<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Water<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Less<\/td>\n<td>Enough<\/td>\n<td>Less<\/td>\n<td>Enough<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Rainfall<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>&lt;400\u2009mm<\/td>\n<td>400\u2013800\u2009mm<\/td>\n<td>400\u2013800\u2009mm<\/td>\n<td>&gt;800\u2009mm<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Subsistence<br \/>system<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Herder<\/td>\n<td>Wheat or herder\/wheat-blended<\/td>\n<td>Wheat<\/td>\n<td>Rice<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Voluntary<br \/>settlement<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>No<\/td>\n<td>Yes<\/td>\n<td>No<\/td>\n<td>No<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Population<br \/>density<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Low<\/td>\n<td>Low<\/td>\n<td>High<\/td>\n<td>High<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h4>Pluses and Minuses<\/h4>\n<p>Collectivistic societies can have certain good aspects, as expressed by this example sentence from the entry for <span onclick=\"plus(this)\"><i>\u201cx\u016bnt\u00e1o<\/i><\/span><span class=\"plusinfo a\" onclick=\"minus(this)\">\n\t\t\t(x\u016bn\u00b7t\u00e1o\n\t\t\t<span class=\"mt\"><span class=\"lit\">{cure (meat\/etc.) with smoke} \u00b7 {mould (as with clay)} \u2192<\/span> [influence positively; nurture; edify; train]<\/span>\n\t\t\t\u718f\u9676\n\t\t\t<span class=\"trad\">\u718f\/\u85b0\u9676<\/span>)<\/span><i>\u201d<\/i> in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pleco.com\/\" title=\"Pleco Software \u2013 The #1 Chinese dictionary app for iOS and Android\">Pleco<\/a>\u2019s built-in dictionary:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<strong>Z\u00e0i j\u00edt\u01d0 zh\u01d4y\u00ec j\u012bngsh\u00e9n de x\u016bnt\u00e1o xi\u00e0, h\u00e1izimen h\u00f9xi\u0101ng gu\u0101nx\u012bn, h\u00f9xi\u0101ng b\u0101ngzh\u00f9.<\/strong> [Word division was edited.]<br \/>\n<br \/>\nNurtured in the spirit of collectivism, the children care for each other and help each other.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>However, recently, some research has come out that shows that some negative ways of thinking, feeling, and acting are more likely to be displayed by those in collectivistic societies.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Studies show collectivists (Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Thai, Ghanians) are more likely to withhold information during negotiations, have frenemies than real friends, hold zero-sum beliefs, compare themselves to others, feel bad about themselves when their friends succeed. 3 <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/dGSSkk3prx\">pic.twitter.com\/dGSSkk3prx<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Kaidi Wu, Ph.D. (@kaidi_wu) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kaidi_wu\/status\/1778461275124809772?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 11, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>To clarify, here is a <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wiktionary.org\/wiki\/zero-sum\" title=\"zero-sum - Wiktionary, the free dictionary\">definition<\/a> of \u201czero-sum\u201d :<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nOf any system where all gains are offset by exactly equal losses.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So, a zero-sum game or system is one in which another must lose for one to win\u2014no win-win situations. That means that if you hold zero-sum beliefs, as, according to the studies referred to in the above post, collectivists are more likely to do, then you will think that any goodness that\u2019s enjoyed by someone else is goodness that\u2019s no longer available to you.<\/p>\n<p>Zero-sum thinking makes it difficult to have true empathy for others who are suffering, and it makes it difficult to follow the Bible counsel at <a href=\"https:\/\/wol.jw.org\/en\/wol\/b\/r1\/lp-e\/nwtsty\/45\/12#study=discover&#038;v=45:12:15\" title=\"Romans 12 \u2014 Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY\">Romans 12:15<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nRejoice with those who rejoice; weep with those who weep.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h4>Collectivism and the Obsession with Chinese Characters<\/h4>\n<p>It seems, then, that there is a connection between collectivism and China\u2019s obsessive refusal so far to move on from Chinese characters to more reasonable and modern writing systems like <span onclick=\"plus(this)\"><i>P\u012bny\u012bn<\/i><\/span><span class=\"plusinfo\" onclick=\"minus(this)\">\n\t\t\t(P\u012bn\u00b7y\u012bn\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">{Piecing Together of} \u00b7 Sounds \u2192<\/span> <span class=\"mt\">[Pinyin]<\/span>\n\t\t\t\u62fc\u97f3)<\/span>. Consider this excerpt from my article \u201c<span onclick=\"plus(this)\"><i>P\u012bny\u012bn<\/i><\/span><span class=\"plusinfo\" onclick=\"minus(this)\">\n\t\t\t(P\u012bn\u00b7y\u012bn\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">{Piecing Together of} \u00b7 Sounds \u2192<\/span> <span class=\"mt\">[Pinyin]<\/span>\n\t\t\t\u62fc\u97f3)<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/troubadourworks.com\/tiandi\/articles\/Pinyin_Was_Plan_A%E2%80%94Article.html\" title=\"P\u012bny\u012bn Was Plan A\">Was Plan A<\/a>\u201d:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nIn addition to those who feel that phasing out the <i>H\u00e0nz\u00ec<\/i> [Chinese characters] would be a regrettable cultural loss, I have also noticed that there are some for whom knowledge of <i>H\u00e0nz\u00ec<\/i> is a matter of <em>pride<\/em> and <em>self-identity<\/em>. They are <em>proud<\/em> of knowing the <i>H\u00e0nz\u00ec<\/i> as they do, and they view their knowledge of the <i>H\u00e0nz\u00ec<\/i> as part of what makes them who they are, as something that distinguishes them from those who don&rsquo;t know the <i>H\u00e0nz\u00ec<\/i>. Such ones may defend the <i>H\u00e0nz\u00ec<\/i> to the point of irrationality in the face of a more accessible alternative that would make them and their hard-earned knowledge of <i>H\u00e0nz\u00ec<\/i> less &ldquo;special&rdquo;, that would threaten to render worthless all of the blood, sweat, and tears they have invested into grappling with these &ldquo;Chinese puzzles&rdquo;. It&rsquo;s as if they are saying, &ldquo;That&rsquo;s not fair! If I had to go through all this bitter hard work to learn characters before I could read and write Chinese, then everyone else has to too!&rdquo;\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Maybe this is connected to why so many Chinese people seem to think,<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI suffered with Chinese characters, so you must suffer with them too!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>rather than,<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI want you to use _P\u012bny\u012bn_ so you won\u2019t have to suffer with Chinese characters like I did.\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/rgv337FoFi\">https:\/\/t.co\/rgv337FoFi<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Troubadour WW (@troubadourww) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/troubadourww\/status\/1779036010938290413?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 13, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">If individuals are only valued for their contribution to the collective and are insufficiently appreciated and cared for as individuals, it\u2019s perhaps unsurprising that such individuals would feel driven to seek their own individual interests in covert ways.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Troubadour WW (@troubadourww) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/troubadourww\/status\/1779338544437494084?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 14, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Individuals and collectives both exist and both matter, so there needs to be a good balance between collectivism and individualism.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps \u201ccollectivistic societies\u201d and \u201cindividualistic societies\u201d are both unbalanced, just in different ways.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Troubadour WW (@troubadourww) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/troubadourww\/status\/1779343182008049999?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 14, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h4>Self-Identity and Balanced Self-Love<\/h4>\n<p><em>Self-identity<\/em> is one thing that can particularly be a struggle for those raised in collectivistic societies, since the self is relatatively often neglected in such societies. It\u2019s perhaps not surprising then, that, as mentioned above, in the relatively collectivistic Chinese societies, with their relative paucity, or scarcity, of more healthy ways to build and maintain self-identity, so many have such an unhealthy, obsessive attachment to Chinese characters, as something to desperately hang their neglected self-identities on.<\/p>\n<p>As Jehovah\u2019s organization has <a href=\"https:\/\/wol.jw.org\/en\/wol\/d\/r1\/lp-e\/2019406#h=23:0-23:337\" title=\"Do Not Be Fooled by \u201cthe Wisdom of This World\u201d \u2014 Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY\">commented<\/a>, for us to follow well the command at <a href=\"https:\/\/wol.jw.org\/en\/wol\/b\/r1\/lp-e\/nwtsty\/40\/19#study=discover&#038;v=40:19:19\" title=\"Matthew 19 \u2014 Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY\">Matthew 19:19<\/a> to \u201clove your neighbor as yourself\u201d, we must first love ourselves in a healthy way. Also, while <a href=\"https:\/\/wol.jw.org\/en\/wol\/b\/r1\/lp-e\/nwtsty\/45\/12#study=discover&#038;v=45:12:3\" title=\"Romans 12 \u2014 Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY\">Romans 12:3<\/a> telling each of us \u201cnot to think more of himself than it is necessary to think, but to think so as to have a sound mind\u201d is mainly an admonition against the overly self-important thinking that individualistic societies can tend to promote, it also shows that it <em>is<\/em> necessary to think a certain amount of ourselves to have a balanced, sound mind.<\/p>\n<p>In turn, it seems that our developing a balanced, healthy view of ourselves can contribute to our avoiding things like zero-sum thinking, and to our developing a balanced, healthy view of Chinese characters. From that balanced, healthy place, we can be free to develop a balanced, healthy view of the possible alternative of <span onclick=\"plus(this)\"><i>P\u012bny\u012bn<\/i><\/span><span class=\"plusinfo\" onclick=\"minus(this)\">\n\t\t\t(P\u012bn\u00b7y\u012bn\n\t\t\t<span class=\"lit\">{Piecing Together of} \u00b7 Sounds \u2192<\/span> <span class=\"mt\">[Pinyin]<\/span>\n\t\t\t\u62fc\u97f3)<\/span><i>,<\/i> which could empower us to serve Jehovah and help others in the Mandarin field as well as we ought to be able to.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Generally speaking, Western societies are considered to be relatively individualistic, while Eastern societies, like Chinese ones, are considered to be relatively collectivistic, emphasizing the collective, or group, over the individual. This week\u2019s MEotW, seems to be the main Mandarin expression referring to such collectivism. 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